This blog seeks to highlight the plight of Sabra Ahmadzai. She is a 20-year old Afghan woman from Kabul, who was married and then abandoned, by an Indian Army Doctor. Major Chandrasekhar Pant, already had wife and children back home in India, but did not mention it to Sabra or her family. He even converted to Islam, and changed his name to Himmat Khan, so he could marry Sabra.
Dear Sabra,Forget the religion part and have a clear and careful understanding that you are a wife and you want a life and not a divorce which will ruin your life.It would be better if Dr. Chandrashekhar Pant accepts you (Sabra) as his legally married wife and have her to live with him along with his first wife and that provided if Sabra also lives as a Hindu in India. As for as I am concerned I was a Muslim who was married to a very warm and caring South Indian Brahmin man as his second wife. Initially, when he married me, religion was not a barrier for us and I was accepted as his legally married (second) wife and even accepted by his first wife who was very kind enough to me and also I was even accepted by the children (two boys and one girl) of the first wife-Geeta (whom i affectionately call as Geetaji). Eventually it is the three of us (myself and my husband who also manage the entire family along with his first wife Geeta.)Every body in my family loves my children and the children of the first wife Geeta also call me as Amma (mother) and they also take care of my children too with a careful and watchful eye of the elders in the family.Now i have got three children (2 boys and 1 girl) from me apart from the children of Geeta and we are a very happy family and love has got no boundaries. Better Sabra understands this.Kamala Ramkamala_ram@rediff.com
Strange Hindu is not allowed to marry two marriages simultaneosly. Your Husband is violating the law of the land.And it is sure that you are not a Muslim you are deviating her.And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is).[Quran 2:42]
Kamala Ram is a hindhu acting as a Muslim... ram ram baghwan sucks
Hi Kamala Ram, As a Hindu Indian-American, I am outraged reading your comment. For me, Sabra's case is not from the point of Hindu or Muslim religion because religions are blind. She suffered worst possible injustice and betrayal of love which is unacceptable and outragious in any decent society like India. Afghan people suffered enough from Pakistani blunders. We Indians are there in Aghanistan to heal their pain and help them rebuild their life. Instead what this person has done makes all of us Indians look very bad. My apology for the people of Afghanistan. Sabra will fight for her justice in India so that that person will be sent to jail by loosing his job. She is still young; it is right thing for her to join the Delhi JNU for graduation course and get a job in India by complete the same. She will find one true love on her way to education and job. There is no need to live with a 40 years old man while she is still 20 years old. She already have a great support system in India to do the needful. Meantime, we will also follow up her case and will chip-in our help, whenever and whatever possible, as we have her contact info. Please don't mislead her and make her life more miserable. All religions are blind; Islam is worst of them all.thanksJivan
Thank you! the only comment which made sense.
Hi JivanIt's disgusting that you call Islam the worst for blidness, it's obvious from your comment that your very ignorant to the religion and should not be allowed to make comments like these unless you have thoroughly studied it instead of listening to the dreadful media that does not show the truth but everything bad that happens is always blamed on Islam. You have no knowledge on the guidance taught by Islam as how to live the correct way. what you see in the media is not Islam, so please don't make comments as it's only offending. As for Sabra's case she needs to fight her case for betrayel, but needs to forget about this chap being her husband or hope to live with him as marriage to a non-muslim is haram in the eyes of God and will never be blessed regardless of how happy the couple may be in this life and any children born will also be haram or illegitimate. This also goes for Kamala who shows to be very happy accepting Hinduism as her path on this life while forgetting that this world will end and by committing Shirk (accepting more than 1 God or idols as god) she is doomed in the eternal life... Anyway Good luck to all what ever they believe.
kamala - dont go about your nonsense here. period.Sabra - Im a hindu, but religion apart, he has cheated you with clear concious, he should be punished for that.This is NOT about religion, this is about men cheating around, messing with peoples lives.and Im a man , FTR.
All those who say it is not about religion. Well it is not ONLY about religion. It contains many problems like cheating, betrayal (including the major converting to Islam) & please all of you who don't really think religion is important then please...read her case carefully as the major had to convert to Islam to win her parent's hearts. Sabra..I'm a muslim too & I know how important religion is for a muslim girl especially in the marriage case so think about it he didn't only betray you but also betrayed our religion. If he just pretended to convert to Islam then I don't think your marriage exists any longer in the eyes of Islam. I say..ditch the man, don't even think about living with his wife and children. You are so young get an admission in a good university make a good career instead of fighting a never ending case. The Indian Army will never take action against the major believe me. I know divorce can be so hard for you but you can't just spend all your life on such a cheater, be strong! It was just my advice. I really really hope you life will be on the track again. Good luck.
Reading all of your Religiously dedicated advice to this poor girl reminds me that there is no correct religion or god. Humanity can never be peaceful if we do not realize this and come together under the religion of love and tolerance. There can be no god, for if there were things like this would not happen. And now we are all killing each other over an invisible force that has been created to lead us all astray from our brothers and sisters.
Hi All,This is case of cheating and nothing else.The major should be punished for doing such an act with a girl.The major should accept her immediately, even though she might not get the first wife's legal rights, but she will get a 2nd wife's place. Even this 2nd place is also good enough.Thanks.
A clear case of fraud.To bring in nationalities,religion,culture etc. is diluting the discussion to further empower the man's act of fraud and to weaken the woman's position here as a victim of his lies and trecheary.To those of you advising her to 'aceept 2nd wife's position'..would u mind please asking the young girl if that's what she wants? The law of this land only supports monogamy.Most people in civilsed world choose that too.Let us call out a cheater for his action rather than dictating how the victim should compromise by giving up her dignity!
Kamala Ram,please take your stories of 'happy bigamist family' elsewhere.You can paint a glorified picture of how happy you all are,but if one wereto ask your husband's first wife or her children if they would have preferred it without a second wife to their father and under their very roof,their opinions or wishes may not exactly echo yours.So,what worked for you(or may not) cannot automatically be endorsed as people generally have enough intelligence and emotions to want to have a married partner as their own rather than have a 50% relationship based on convenience aspects.Do not want to criticise you personally but sorry,your post advising a victim to quietly take up a second wife's post is honestly outrageous!
I think there was no Afghan left that Sabra got married with someone, whom she did not even know well. Who trusts strangers? only mental and fool people will trust strangers. Strangers can betray you and dessert you any time they want. After all , he was not handsome to say that she got married with him since he was handsome and rich. Sazai Wuroot aw garm.
Actually, I read in another article that when Sabra found out that Pant was already married and had kids, she asked that he accept her as his second wife and she'd move in with his family. He refused. The part that's paining her isn't the money and not so much the previously married part - it's the lies and the abandonment. If he wanted to marry her as a second wife - okay that's fine, polygamy is common in Afghanistan - but he needed to ACCEPT and SUPPORT her as a wife. For him to leave her after several weeks is seen as a disgrace in her society - THAT is the real problem, not so much the fact that he was married already. Also, religion has nothing to do with this, so keep it out of the talk. Pant lied about his conversion, but that's a problem with him, not the religions (hinduism and islam). Just thought I'd clear that up.
Dear Sabra,You would be better to come back to Afghanistan, and die with respect. Living with respect less life it is better to die. We afghan has always scarified our lives for our honor. I feel very shameful whenever I hear such cases. We have been suffered from a great blunder from everywhere and anytime. That time has been passed when this land was called the land of tigers. All the tigers have been died. Our all leaders are now like fox and monkeys. We don’t blame anyone who has teased us, it is done by our leaders. Whenever a man want to give his hands to the enemies and destroy his own house then who is responsible for that. Sabra you are looking very dirty with this guy. I am sorry for saying that. He is not suiting you.There is too much to say but no one will believe and no one will accept. Because our culture makes us separate us from the world.Nasir Afghanistan.
What do you mean die with respect? who are you to decide for her? Things happen and she will fight for it, she is brave enough to stand up for herself. If you interested to die with respect in Afghanistan, please go ahead.
Sabra, pls become Pants 2nd wife and have nice enjoyment as couple and 3 some. Hindu also have many unofficial wives. Law says no, but unofficially it is OK. All 3 of you should have some rocking fun. Good luck Sabraji.
Dr Pant pl accept Sabra as your 2nd wife. Pl have courage to discard all false notions of rules service codes social norms. Be a true man.
Dear Sabra,
ReplyDeleteForget the religion part and have a clear and careful understanding that you are a wife and you want a life and not a divorce which will ruin your life.
It would be better if Dr. Chandrashekhar Pant accepts you (Sabra) as his legally married wife and have her to live with him along with his first wife and that provided if Sabra also lives as a Hindu in India.
As for as I am concerned I was a Muslim who was married to a very warm and caring South Indian Brahmin man as his second wife. Initially, when he married me, religion was not a barrier for us and I was accepted as his legally married (second) wife and even accepted by his first wife who was very kind enough to me and also I was even accepted by the children (two boys and one girl) of the first wife-Geeta (whom i affectionately call as Geetaji). Eventually it is the three of us (myself and my husband who also manage the entire family along with his first wife Geeta.)
Every body in my family loves my children and the children of the first wife Geeta also call me as Amma (mother) and they also take care of my children too with a careful and watchful eye of the elders in the family.
Now i have got three children (2 boys and 1 girl) from me apart from the children of Geeta and we are a very happy family and love has got no boundaries.
Better Sabra understands this.
Kamala Ram
kamala_ram@rediff.com
Strange Hindu is not allowed to marry two marriages simultaneosly. Your Husband is violating the law of the land.
ReplyDeleteAnd it is sure that you are not a Muslim you are deviating her.
And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is).[Quran 2:42]
Kamala Ram is a hindhu acting as a Muslim... ram ram baghwan sucks
ReplyDeleteHi Kamala Ram,
ReplyDeleteAs a Hindu Indian-American, I am outraged reading your comment. For me, Sabra's case is not from the point of Hindu or Muslim religion because religions are blind. She suffered worst possible injustice and betrayal of love which is unacceptable and outragious in any decent society like India. Afghan people suffered enough from Pakistani blunders. We Indians are there in Aghanistan to heal their pain and help them rebuild their life. Instead what this person has done makes all of us Indians look very bad. My apology for the people of Afghanistan. Sabra will fight for her justice in India so that that person will be sent to jail by loosing his job. She is still young; it is right thing for her to join the Delhi JNU for graduation course and get a job in India by complete the same. She will find one true love on her way to education and job. There is no need to live with a 40 years old man while she is still 20 years old. She already have a great support system in India to do the needful. Meantime, we will also follow up her case and will chip-in our help, whenever and whatever possible, as we have her contact info. Please don't mislead her and make her life more miserable. All religions are blind; Islam is worst of them all.
thanks
Jivan
Thank you! the only comment which made sense.
DeleteHi Jivan
ReplyDeleteIt's disgusting that you call Islam the worst for blidness, it's obvious from your comment that your very ignorant to the religion and should not be allowed to make comments like these unless you have thoroughly studied it instead of listening to the dreadful media that does not show the truth but everything bad that happens is always blamed on Islam. You have no knowledge on the guidance taught by Islam as how to live the correct way. what you see in the media is not Islam, so please don't make comments as it's only offending. As for Sabra's case she needs to fight her case for betrayel, but needs to forget about this chap being her husband or hope to live with him as marriage to a non-muslim is haram in the eyes of God and will never be blessed regardless of how happy the couple may be in this life and any children born will also be haram or illegitimate. This also goes for Kamala who shows to be very happy accepting Hinduism as her path on this life while forgetting that this world will end and by committing Shirk (accepting more than 1 God or idols as god) she is doomed in the eternal life... Anyway Good luck to all what ever they believe.
kamala - dont go about your nonsense here. period.
ReplyDeleteSabra - Im a hindu, but religion apart, he has cheated you with clear concious, he should be punished for that.
This is NOT about religion, this is about men cheating around, messing with peoples lives.
and Im a man , FTR.
All those who say it is not about religion. Well it is not ONLY about religion. It contains many problems like cheating, betrayal (including the major converting to Islam) & please all of you who don't really think religion is important then please...read her case carefully as the major had to convert to Islam to win her parent's hearts. Sabra..I'm a muslim too & I know how important religion is for a muslim girl especially in the marriage case so think about it he didn't only betray you but also betrayed our religion. If he just pretended to convert to Islam then I don't think your marriage exists any longer in the eyes of Islam. I say..ditch the man, don't even think about living with his wife and children. You are so young get an admission in a good university make a good career instead of fighting a never ending case. The Indian Army will never take action against the major believe me. I know divorce can be so hard for you but you can't just spend all your life on such a cheater, be strong! It was just my advice. I really really hope you life will be on the track again. Good luck.
ReplyDeleteReading all of your Religiously dedicated advice to this poor girl reminds me that there is no correct religion or god. Humanity can never be peaceful if we do not realize this and come together under the religion of love and tolerance. There can be no god, for if there were things like this would not happen. And now we are all killing each other over an invisible force that has been created to lead us all astray from our brothers and sisters.
ReplyDeleteHi All,
ReplyDeleteThis is case of cheating and nothing else.
The major should be punished for doing such an act with a girl.
The major should accept her immediately, even though she might not get the first wife's legal rights, but she will get a 2nd wife's place. Even this 2nd place is also good enough.
Thanks.
A clear case of fraud.To bring in nationalities,religion,culture etc. is diluting the discussion to further empower the man's act of fraud and to weaken the woman's position here as a victim of his lies and trecheary.To those of you advising her to 'aceept 2nd wife's position'..would u mind please asking the young girl if that's what she wants? The law of this land only supports monogamy.Most people in civilsed world choose that too.Let us call out a cheater for his action rather than dictating how the victim should compromise by giving up her dignity!
ReplyDeleteKamala Ram,please take your stories of 'happy bigamist family' elsewhere.You can paint a glorified picture of how happy you all are,but if one wereto ask your husband's first wife or her children if they would have preferred it without a second wife to their father and under their very roof,their opinions or wishes may not exactly echo yours.So,what worked for you(or may not) cannot automatically be endorsed as people generally have enough intelligence and emotions to want to have a married partner as their own rather than have a 50% relationship based on convenience aspects.Do not want to criticise you personally but sorry,your post advising a victim to quietly take up a second wife's post is honestly outrageous!
ReplyDeleteI think there was no Afghan left that Sabra got married with someone, whom she did not even know well. Who trusts strangers? only mental and fool people will trust strangers. Strangers can betray you and dessert you any time they want. After all , he was not handsome to say that she got married with him since he was handsome and rich. Sazai Wuroot aw garm.
ReplyDeleteActually, I read in another article that when Sabra found out that Pant was already married and had kids, she asked that he accept her as his second wife and she'd move in with his family. He refused. The part that's paining her isn't the money and not so much the previously married part - it's the lies and the abandonment. If he wanted to marry her as a second wife - okay that's fine, polygamy is common in Afghanistan - but he needed to ACCEPT and SUPPORT her as a wife. For him to leave her after several weeks is seen as a disgrace in her society - THAT is the real problem, not so much the fact that he was married already. Also, religion has nothing to do with this, so keep it out of the talk. Pant lied about his conversion, but that's a problem with him, not the religions (hinduism and islam). Just thought I'd clear that up.
ReplyDeleteDear Sabra,
ReplyDeleteYou would be better to come back to Afghanistan, and die with respect. Living with respect less life it is better to die. We afghan has always scarified our lives for our honor. I feel very shameful whenever I hear such cases. We have been suffered from a great blunder from everywhere and anytime. That time has been passed when this land was called the land of tigers. All the tigers have been died. Our all leaders are now like fox and monkeys. We don’t blame anyone who has teased us, it is done by our leaders.
Whenever a man want to give his hands to the enemies and destroy his own house then who is responsible for that.
Sabra you are looking very dirty with this guy. I am sorry for saying that. He is not suiting you.
There is too much to say but no one will believe and no one will accept. Because our culture makes us separate us from the world.
Nasir
Afghanistan.
What do you mean die with respect? who are you to decide for her? Things happen and she will fight for it, she is brave enough to stand up for herself. If you interested to die with respect in Afghanistan, please go ahead.
DeleteSabra, pls become Pants 2nd wife and have nice enjoyment as couple and 3 some. Hindu also have many unofficial wives. Law says no, but unofficially it is OK. All 3 of you should have some rocking fun. Good luck Sabraji.
ReplyDeleteDr Pant pl accept Sabra as your 2nd wife.
ReplyDeletePl have courage to discard all false notions of rules service codes social norms. Be a true man.